tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5599222840274804102.post3583660133218411287..comments2023-04-15T03:10:12.861-06:00Comments on New Temple in Provo: Curiouser and CuriouserUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5599222840274804102.post-7637700638357764242014-09-05T11:39:41.324-06:002014-09-05T11:39:41.324-06:00I'm going to disagree with David/Mary Lou. You...I'm going to disagree with David/Mary Lou. You can see 6 of these black posts from the webcam, and they are right where the center posts on the railing should be. (The railings will not be on the outer edge of the platform, but closer to the middle, according to both the render and the plans that I have seen. The railing should form a square just a little bit smaller than the box the tower sits on) They might be dual purpose, as the lights will probably be inside the railing. Railing posts would even be a great place to mount lights, especially the new flat panel style LED lighting they used at Fort Lauderdale and plan to use at Fort Collins and Meridian Temples.<br /><br />As for regular wood trim, these jambs are just that, regular wood trim that has survived for 140 years. When they did the Vernal Tabernacle to temple renovation, they refurbished and reused exterior wood, replacing it with more wood when necessary. Additionally, the doors, trim and towers on Logan and Manti temples are wood, and are over the same age as the Provo Tabernacle door jambs. <br /><br />That being said, they could be some kind of Vinyl. That would hold up well to water, but might have warping issues with heat. Whatever the trim is, they are cutting it with a miter saw, so it's not metal. I thought they would do sheet metal, like they do the spires on the chapels, but I saw something in one of the early posts that made me think it was still wood. Specifically, some of the cut edges appear to be unfinished wood. *See this image:<br />http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--85IIzQcaRM/VADYzX40AdI/AAAAAAAAUWY/GkfDCCUUuYA/s1600/Trim%2B4.jpg )<br /><br />I do agree that they will triple pane the windows. It is not uncommon on building restorations to use window frames that are wood or wood veneer on the outside to keep the look of the original building, and plastic or metal on the inside. These can actually increase window efficiency, as solid metal conducts heat loss faster than wood, or half wood half metal frames.<br />Brian https://www.blogger.com/profile/03431265608355674972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5599222840274804102.post-38470107043496869222014-09-05T09:53:41.415-06:002014-09-05T09:53:41.415-06:00Hi Julie--I agree with Brian about the reflectors ...Hi Julie--I agree with Brian about the reflectors and the plumb line. I think, however, your black "candles" may be sites of electrical conduit for future lighting. I think the newel posts for the railing would be further out onto the edge of the platform. The black conduit points would be logical flood light points for the steeple....and we love to light our temple steeples! I also think any exposed wood on the outside of the temple, which would be exposed to the elements, will receive some serious attention. Temples are built to last 100 years. I don't see any "regular" wood trim surviving that long. I think all exterior wood will have to be seriously treated or replicated into a more durable substance (such as metal or hi-tech something. The same will be true for all the window casings for the art glass windows. The temple art glass is now regularly done as triple-pane, with the art glass sandwiched between two regular windows...both for safety and for energy efficiency. That won't work if they use the old frames...although I believe they will be meticulously recreated to look like the old ones. <br /><br />Thanks for all your work on this blog!David and Mary Louhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978980463493077301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5599222840274804102.post-53389303183044550262014-09-04T20:03:23.841-06:002014-09-04T20:03:23.841-06:00I had read some time ago that the wood trim on the...I had read some time ago that the wood trim on the temple that is tan would be replaced with the original paint color that the pioneers had used, which was some shade of gray. It will be interesting to see what happens. It's amazing to think how much work is going into making this beautiful building as historically accurate as possible. I would also like to thank you for the countless hours that you devote to this project. Your devotion has not gone unnoticed and is greatly appreciated by so many people. You are incredible! Jeff Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17934848925139323387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5599222840274804102.post-68633073212296749242014-09-04T19:19:12.785-06:002014-09-04T19:19:12.785-06:00And jamb session. Classic!And jamb session. Classic!Julie Markhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11263863405353025499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5599222840274804102.post-28651335804633439872014-09-04T19:17:53.548-06:002014-09-04T19:17:53.548-06:00Brian, thank you for this very helpful comment. I&...Brian, thank you for this very helpful comment. I'm going to edit this post concerning the northeast corner, and incorporate the rest in future posts.Julie Markhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11263863405353025499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5599222840274804102.post-1166647370392017042014-09-04T18:44:06.143-06:002014-09-04T18:44:06.143-06:00About other temples, there is a Blog for Hartford,...About other temples, there is a Blog for Hartford, but it updates about once a month: http://hartfordconnecticuttemple.blogspot.com/<br /><br />Some other thoughts on this post:<br /><br />The north east corner, I don't think that is going to be the monument (The monument is the stone sign most temples have that say the temple name and the church's name.) At Provo City Center, the monument should be at the stoplight on University Avenue, just south of the temple, facing south east. I think on the North East Corner those are foundations for planting beds. The corner is supposed to be a circle of sidewalk, and those planters mark the outside edge. The gab between them will have a sidewalk running diagonally across the lot to that new north planting bed.<br /><br />the post where the Gablet will go, I think that is temporary. In one of the pictures you can see it is holding a plumb line, that neon colored string that is being used to make sure things line up. The cables are safety lines for the workers attached to what I can only assume are temporary brackets (Red and Dirty looking,) as the trim and Gablet will cover the spot they are attached to.<br /><br />The sensor looks like some kind of Surveyors reflector. They can bounce a laser off it to get elevation for other things on the grounds right, maybe? I don't know for sure, but if they were checking to make sure the gable is straight the reflector should point towards the ground maybe?<br /><br /><br />The black post with the geofoam: that's either to protect a hole, or a bolt sticking up. my guess is a bolt sticking up, otherwise, what is holding the foam in place? That post will be a railing post, one of 4 on each side of the decorative railing on the top of the box the spire sits on. Each railing will have a large one on each end that intersects with the neighbor post for the railing on the adjacent side. The 2 near the center of the railing will be smaller. All 16 railing posts will have a newel on top. That newel will either screw into the hole or onto the bolt that the foam is protecting from damage.<br /><br />As for the missing Jambs, maybe they have gone to a Jamb Session? (Sorry, bad pun!) I did not realize they would completely remove them to refurbish them. It will be interesting to see if they will become white as well, even though they are currently tan.<br /><br /><br /><br />Brian https://www.blogger.com/profile/03431265608355674972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5599222840274804102.post-36239720277101162952014-09-04T18:03:44.174-06:002014-09-04T18:03:44.174-06:00Thanks for your kind words. I don't want anyo...Thanks for your kind words. I don't want anyone to know how much time it takes...some days it surprises even me!Julie Markhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11263863405353025499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5599222840274804102.post-87101755068265130162014-09-04T17:50:16.857-06:002014-09-04T17:50:16.857-06:00May I tell you how awesome this blog is? I can'...May I tell you how awesome this blog is? I can't imagine how much time you must spend on this. I just wish someone in the vicinity of the Philadelphia, Tijuana, and other interesting temple projects were doing something similar to sate my curiosity.Travishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06156245840744743110noreply@blogger.com